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Re: [BD]Janice Walking To The Future Live 2014 Blu-ray 1080i

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:51 pm
by frankiepoon
akiraku wrote:
frankiepoon wrote:
akiraku wrote:
frankiepoon wrote: 始終都係1080i 編碼, 同"L'Arc~en~Ciel LIVE 2014 at 国立競技場"1080p 24fps冇得比 :-q
1080i 不是 編碼
只用 i 和 p 去決定畫質好壞不會是 rule of thumb
咁叫咩?
我梗係睇過畫質比較先咁講, 衛蘭果個一睇就見到有夠牙 :-q
另外一個4K拍既Muse Live in Rome一樣係1080i, 一樣有狗牙 :-q

編碼 = encoding / codec now , with compression algorithm, e.g MPEG2, H.264

1080 is screen resolution
p = progressive ( 1080p24, 1080p25, 1080p30, 1080p50, 1080p60),
i = interlaced, i.e. the frame will be divided into 2 portions, so, there are 1080i50 (25 frames) and 1080p60 (30 frames)

if u view 1080i video on PC, the software will do de-interlacing (==> p), which one of the factors to determine video quality is the de-interlacing algorithm.

moreover, if u view 1080p50 , it has 2 times more frames than 1080i50.
i/p係叫scan type~
如果你計frame去比較, 咁1080p24係咪差過1080i60 ? 因為BD唔會有1080p50/60出現 ;;)

Re: [BD]Janice Walking To The Future Live 2014 Blu-ray 1080i

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:51 pm
by frankiepoon
wmmokk wrote:
akiraku wrote:
frankiepoon wrote:
akiraku wrote:
frankiepoon wrote: 始終都係1080i 編碼, 同"L'Arc~en~Ciel LIVE 2014 at 国立競技場"1080p 24fps冇得比 :-q
1080i 不是 編碼
只用 i 和 p 去決定畫質好壞不會是 rule of thumb
咁叫咩?
我梗係睇過畫質比較先咁講, 衛蘭果個一睇就見到有夠牙 :-q
另外一個4K拍既Muse Live in Rome一樣係1080i, 一樣有狗牙 :-q

編碼 = encoding / codec now , with compression algorithm, e.g MPEG2, H.264

1080 is screen resolution
p = progressive ( 1080p24, 1080p25, 1080p30, 1080p50, 1080p60),
i = interlaced, i.e. the frame will be divided into 2 portions, so, there are 1080i50 (25 frames) and 1080p60 (30 frames)

if u view 1080i video on PC, the software will do de-interlacing (==> p), which one of the factors to determine video quality is the de-interlacing algorithm.

moreover, if u view 1080p50 , it has 2 times more frames than 1080i50.
de-interlacing i->p, 係software 或 on-chip real time 做, 其實都係估番d畫面出黎, 唔同device/setting都會有分別 , 不過real time做好難做得番原本100%畫面 , 所以通常p既source都靚過i 既source
同意, 所以而家4K/UHD標準下唔會再有i, 只有p, 仲要係食足50/60 frame :D

Re: [BD]Janice Walking To The Future Live 2014 Blu-ray 1080i

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 10:07 pm
by akiraku
frankiepoon wrote:
akiraku wrote:
frankiepoon wrote:
akiraku wrote:
frankiepoon wrote: 始終都係1080i 編碼, 同"L'Arc~en~Ciel LIVE 2014 at 国立競技場"1080p 24fps冇得比 :-q
1080i 不是 編碼
只用 i 和 p 去決定畫質好壞不會是 rule of thumb
咁叫咩?
我梗係睇過畫質比較先咁講, 衛蘭果個一睇就見到有夠牙 :-q
另外一個4K拍既Muse Live in Rome一樣係1080i, 一樣有狗牙 :-q

編碼 = encoding / codec now , with compression algorithm, e.g MPEG2, H.264

1080 is screen resolution
p = progressive ( 1080p24, 1080p25, 1080p30, 1080p50, 1080p60),
i = interlaced, i.e. the frame will be divided into 2 portions, so, there are 1080i50 (25 frames) and 1080p60 (30 frames)

if u view 1080i video on PC, the software will do de-interlacing (==> p), which one of the factors to determine video quality is the de-interlacing algorithm.

moreover, if u view 1080p50 , it has 2 times more frames than 1080i50.
i/p係叫scan type~
如果你計frame去比較, 咁1080p24係咪差過1080i60 ? 因為BD唔會有1080p50/60出現 ;;)
咁如果測試畫面,純紅色,1080p24 同 1080i60 有冇分別?
BD 係可以有 1080p50/60的。

Re: [BD]Janice Walking To The Future Live 2014 Blu-ray 1080i

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:26 am
by frankiepoon
akiraku wrote:
frankiepoon wrote:
akiraku wrote:
frankiepoon wrote:
akiraku wrote:
frankiepoon wrote: 始終都係1080i 編碼, 同"L'Arc~en~Ciel LIVE 2014 at 国立競技場"1080p 24fps冇得比 :-q
1080i 不是 編碼
只用 i 和 p 去決定畫質好壞不會是 rule of thumb
咁叫咩?
我梗係睇過畫質比較先咁講, 衛蘭果個一睇就見到有夠牙 :-q
另外一個4K拍既Muse Live in Rome一樣係1080i, 一樣有狗牙 :-q

編碼 = encoding / codec now , with compression algorithm, e.g MPEG2, H.264

1080 is screen resolution
p = progressive ( 1080p24, 1080p25, 1080p30, 1080p50, 1080p60),
i = interlaced, i.e. the frame will be divided into 2 portions, so, there are 1080i50 (25 frames) and 1080p60 (30 frames)

if u view 1080i video on PC, the software will do de-interlacing (==> p), which one of the factors to determine video quality is the de-interlacing algorithm.

moreover, if u view 1080p50 , it has 2 times more frames than 1080i50.
i/p係叫scan type~
如果你計frame去比較, 咁1080p24係咪差過1080i60 ? 因為BD唔會有1080p50/60出現 ;;)
咁如果測試畫面,純紅色,1080p24 同 1080i60 有冇分別?
BD 係可以有 1080p50/60的。
你講純色咁冇野講啦 ;;)
規格可以, 但冇人出嘛 :-h

Re: [BD]Janice Walking To The Future Live 2014 Blu-ray 1080i

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 12:24 pm
by chhanthony
印象中喺好早期嘅香港concert blu-ray出現過1080 50i呢個格式。

Re: [BD]Janice Walking To The Future Live 2014 Blu-ray 1080i

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:01 pm
by frankiepoon
chhanthony wrote: 印象中喺好早期嘅香港concert blu-ray出現過1080 50i呢個格式。
而家都係1080i50,日本已經轉用1080p24